Monday, April 03, 2006

The Comfort of Conversation


I’m back!!! Have been wanting to write about hajj since January but have discarded many a draft as no amount of words can do the experience justice…I’ve decided to wait till I find the right words, realizing that might never happen hehe…work has given me a chance to travel, meet new people and learn new things...but recently I have noticed myself zoning out of meaningless conversations about angelina jolie and brad pitt, interesting presentations that are so long and repetitive I lose concentration, useless rhetoric, and random small talk…I feel like saying “ stop using these empty phrases and big words man sahi tarha batao kya hai” hahaha…which in effect has convinced me that no amount of books, movies, presentations, seminars, courses at college can teach you what you can learn from a one to one conversation with a friend/colleague/family member or even an acquaintance…and here I’m talking about a REAL conversation…an exchange of ideas/feelings/emotions/thoughts/experiences...be it sitting with a parent/grand parent/aunt/uncle/sibling/friend...listening to them recount a memorable experience that impacted their lives is absolutely priceless...listening to them dispensing advice or turning to you for some is again, in my mind, very fullfilling.

The thing is, God created us as speaking creatures and it is speech that distinguishes human beings from other species. Too often I feel we don’t open up/let others in and sometimes for good reason hehe…its difficult to trust…but too many friendships never go beyond that superficial stage because we have mastered the art, not of communication, but of small talk…my mom uses a saraiki phrase to explain such things...she says it’s a case of “ buss story story heyy khahani kujh koi nae” hahaha...that I would say is an apt and befitting description…. It's possible to talk endlessly about sports, fashion, music, work…But that's not enough. We need people with whom we can share our innermost thoughts/ideas/experiences…that’s the only way we can really connect with each other, beneath the surface.

Forget friends, even family members can and usually live in communicative isolation. We can live in the same house, watch tv like zombies for hours, eat together yet not communicate for days. It’s so easy to live in your own little corner, isolated in your room, listening to your own music, grappling with your own struggles. We need to be with others, not to watch television (although silent bonding is important as well and better than nothing) but to be together and communicate. Without such an exchange you can stifle in your own self-contained box and stagnate emotionally.

In Tuesday’s with Morrie (which by the way is a feel good/motivated must read) Mitch says, “ I spent so many hours on things that meant absolutely nothing to be personally: movie starts, supermodels, the latest noise out of Princess Di or Madonna or John F Kennedy Jr…why did we bother with all the distractions we did? Morrie had created a cocoon of human activities- conversation, interaction, affection- and it filled his life like an overflowing soup bowl.” Morrie said, “So many people walk around with a meaningless life. They seem half-asleep even when they’re busy doing things they think are important. This is because they are chasing the wrong things.” And that is soooo truee!!!

I think conversations give you a chance to build deep connections (re-build old ones) and explore entire worlds...they give you a chance to vent/to share/to listen/to learn/to give advice and receive it…you know the whole dukh sukh bantna philosophy is oh so comforting!! The resulting relationship is infinitely more rewarding! As the Telenor add says “talk less say more” “hear less listen more” or something to that effect!!!

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Blogger Ahmed said...

Meher: That was beautifully written, straight from the heart and without the rather irksome 'word art'. I guess, we as humans, seek permanence, and that, in its true sense can only be achieved through the school of hard knocks. However, our frailing souls (and bodies) do not let us go through the hardships of seeking the truth or ultimate reality. So, the perpetual denial of the 'better' makes us trying to find eternal peace in the meaningless. Which eventually leads to the worthess conversation about movies, stars and the "useless rhetoric, and random small talk".

Yes, "We need people with whom we can share our innermost thoughts/ideas/experiences…that’s the only way we can connect with each other", but that can only happen if we share a common ground for thought with our friends. We do not necessarily need to share the same views , but atleast the same objective, and that is, to "love wisdom as to live".

1:21 AM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

ugh, small talk shall be the death of me. i dread the day i fall for a woman whose all about just that.

with my luck, i most probably will.

3:53 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

and i figure the above would qualify as small talk.

bummer.

3:56 PM

 
Blogger Basit- said...

Just look at the two women in the painting above. Do they remotely (and I mean really, really remotely) look excited/happy/cheerful?? Nahhh they don’t even look close to that. And I don’t even see an ounce of excitement in their conversation. This is what you get, my friend, when you talk about emotions/thoughts/ideas/feelings/break-ups blah blah blah…

Actually….it’s not that bad :P You know I had to make up something for the sake of ‘conversation’. Oooooohh, did I say conversation?? Hahaha There you gooo…See how easy n cheesy it is to start off with something so meaningless and directionless.

So why do we really talk the way we do? Because it’s simple and it’s easy and we don’t need to build a deep connection/trust/friendship to initiate such small talks. I mean we don’t need a great trust/friendship to talk about David Beckam’s curling free-kicks or Shoaib Akhtar’s inch-perfect yorkers or Angelina jolie’s ummmm everything :P It’s simple, it’s entertaining and above-all it does not require any effort.

A lot of times we don’t open-up because a) we can’t/don’t-want-to trust people b) we think others might not really understand our thoughts/ideas c) we are damn lazy and keep waiting for the right time. What we don’t realize is that there isn’t any right time. What little we have is indeed the right time. I mean we have to take a risk (I mean still a calculated one) some time: Kabhie tu kisi ko trust karma parey gaa naa??

So don’t waste time in thinking what to do and what not to do. “Talk less, say more” (I just luuuv that slogan)…Start with family and close-friends. We should come out of our self-contained boxes and pour it out, because “when we share - that is poetry in the prose of life” (Sigmund Freud).

11:21 AM

 
Blogger KM said...

yyyayyyyyyy you're back!

except i just checked.
i agree with what you're trying to say but i realize at some level i myself maintain that distance!
isnt that a part of growing up...to be at a stage where you can decide who you want to open up to and who not...and ive realized that meaningless(in my case bimbonic) conversations play a therapeutic part.
ive spent too much time having serious and deep(read meaningful) conversations and i suppose with (at times) people who really didnt deserve it...
so now im ok with holding back and just making do with the 'superficial' talk!

do you realize im always forced to think too much on ur posts, and more than often i lose relevence.i see that happening here(but humour me and tell me its not.lol)

moral of long comment:ive chosen who i want to open up to!everyone els ecan just think im a giggly bimbo.lol.its fun.

9:17 AM

 
Blogger Omar said...

Nice entry.

You're absolutely right about everything. People are full of themselves these days and the random conversations are just so pointless. I think it all comes back to trust. At least once in your life... you have had a heart-to-heart, direct, serious talk with someone and have confided in someone... and they have broken your trust which causes you to close up and not give anyone else a chance. I guess this results in avoiding any serious discussions ever again...with anyone. It sucks..but it's true.

- Random Person -

8:31 PM

 
Blogger Jerry shah said...

cool stuff... “So many people walk around with a meaningless life. They seem half-asleep even when they’re busy doing things they think are important. This is because they are chasing the wrong things.” ..khair what u say is true..im uptill here with small talk, fake smiles, forced laughter and the works..everythings so fast paced..on the go...trust levels are at an all time low....so many things..im rambling but basically i agree with u...highly thought provoking..somehow though feel very drained and down cos what u say is so true..

4:55 PM

 
Blogger KM said...

ok does it count that the whole evening we sat there 'talking' and i was actually zoning out on and off...cuz i couldnt relate...
but u, me and nahzi out in the drive way was different!
that was maybe the first actuall conversation i had all evening.
:)
*the pic is really cute btw!

5:31 PM

 
Blogger Meher said...

ahmed: "That was beautifully written, straight from the heart and without the rather irksome 'word art'." thank you :)

"the perpetual denial of the 'better' makes us trying to find eternal peace in the meaningless. Which eventually leads to the worthess conversation about movies, stars and the "useless rhetoric, and random small talk"." ABSOLUTELY!!!! i think at some level we feel scared to be ourselves..to share ourselves with others..

"We do not necessarily need to share the same views , but atleast the same objective, and that is, to "love wisdom as to live"." well said!!! a real conversation,in my opinion,is not nec when you agree or have identical points of view but instead its a fluid exchange of ideas/emotions/experiences...in an effort to release and absorb i.e learn from each other!!!

2:01 AM

 
Blogger Meher said...

kashirkaphol: i hope not haha and no that wasnt really small talk...

2:02 AM

 
Blogger Meher said...

Basit: "Just look at the two women in the painting above. Do they remotely (and I mean really, really remotely) look excited/happy/cheerful?? Nahhh they don’t even look close to that. And I don’t even see an ounce of excitement in their conversation. This is what you get, my friend, when you talk about emotions/thoughts/ideas/feelings/break-ups blah blah blah…" basit you were right the picture was too damn depressing hehe so due to your comment ive changed it!!! the credit goes to you entirely!!although im sure you would have appreciated a picture of angelina jolie instead hahaha

"A lot of times we don’t open-up because a) we can’t/don’t-want-to trust people b) we think others might not really understand our thoughts/ideas c) we are damn lazy and keep waiting for the right time. What we don’t realize is that there isn’t any right time."
true! i think most of us feel its difficult to find ppl u connect with, which really means someone who gets you..someone who finds your unique sense of humor hilarious someone who gets and even finds your idiosyncracies adorable :)

"What little we have is indeed the right time. I mean we have to take a risk (I mean still a calculated one) some time: Kabhie tu kisi ko trust karma parey gaa naa??" YUP..i mean we dont need to run around pouring our hearts to everyone..but it helps if you become more open..adopt a more approachable attitude

"We should come out of our self-contained boxes and pour it out, because “when we share - that is poetry in the prose of life” (Sigmund Freud)." well said :)

2:10 AM

 
Blogger Meher said...

Riz: "when we remain in "communicative isolation" we undergo personality's mutations.
Historical progression of ideas and formation of present-day world is the by-product of this "CI"." riz of course we all need time to ourselves to think/create/evalute our lives/contemplate but when i talk of communicative isolation i mean someone who wants to share his/her feelings/ideas/emotions but cannot...all the stuff you come up with while ur alone is meaningless if you cant share it with people who are important to you

"Rightly or wrongly If I have to give a "value" to your "conversational remedies" and run cost/benefit analysis I would categorise it as "uneconomic"." i beg to differ...try my "conversational remedies" with someone you feel is on your wave length..share a silly little idea/theory that is yours and yours alone and you will see the high you get when you share...when you get input(good or bad)

2:15 AM

 
Blogger Meher said...

khizzy: "ive chosen who i want to open up to!everyone els ecan just think im a giggly bimbo.lol.its fun." thats great..as long as you have your support system intact its all good bay-beh ;)

"ok does it count that the whole evening we sat there 'talking' and i was actually zoning out on and off...cuz i couldnt relate..." that btw was ALL small talk...to be honest not one meaningful word was exchanged that evening!!my pt is small is fine sometimes but not always.

"but u, me and nahzi out in the drive way was different!
that was maybe the first actuall conversation i had all evening.
:)" yeahhh i agree now that was a conversation..wish we had more time!!!

"the pic is really cute btw!" thanks and thank you so much for helping me put it up!!!

2:20 AM

 
Blogger Meher said...

Omar: "Nice entry." thank you!!!

"You're absolutely right about everything. People are full of themselves these days and the random conversations are just so pointless. I think it all comes back to trust." so true!!

"At least once in your life... you have had a heart-to-heart, direct, serious talk with someone and have confided in someone... and they have broken your trust which causes you to close up and not give anyone else a chance. I guess this results in avoiding any serious discussions ever again...with anyone. It sucks..but it's true." you are right but i feel its more beneficial to take that risk ( a calculated gamble if you will) and take ur relationship to that next step rather than being complacent with stagnation!! what do you think?!?!

2:22 AM

 
Blogger Meher said...

Jarrar: "cool stuff" :)

"khair what u say is true..im uptill here with small talk, fake smiles, forced laughter and the works..everythings so fast paced..on the go...trust levels are at an all time low" EXACTLY

"somehow though feel very drained and down cos what u say is so true.." awww dont be!! try to give more to get more :) easier said than done but sooner or later you have to let go..trust..and put yourself out there for the taking!!!otherwise you will feel suffocated and frustrated by the repetitive meaningless nonsense that makes up our everyday exchanges!

2:27 AM

 
Blogger Jerry shah said...

i need a vacation!!hehe

11:10 AM

 
Blogger Meher said...

dont we all!!!

3:37 AM

 
Blogger Viks said...

"you can learn from a one to one conversation with a friend/colleague/family member or even an acquaintance…"

I'm surprised you missed out on 'strangers' - thought they fit there somewhere too.

... and I agree with you there. Personally, I wouldn't wanna die tomorrow with a regret in me of not being able to share moments/events/talks with others, that would've made a difference in their life.

I think we all have something special in us, and we should let it out.

Words define us, and how we say them makes it much more better.

12:28 PM

 
Blogger Viks said...

... that could've* made a difference in their life.

12:29 PM

 
Blogger Basit- said...

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10:58 PM

 
Blogger Basit- said...

"basit you were right the picture was too damn depressing hehe so due to your comment ive changed it!!! the credit goes to you entirely!!" haha I think I was tooo harsh on the picture! Poor girls :) but this picture is way too cute!

"i think most of us feel its difficult to find ppl u *connect* with, " --> Actually it's meant to be that way! That's what makes them special/precious :)


Sometimes I feel life has a strange way of *connecting* ppl. We grow-up with teenage crushes that wither-away with time (actually not all of them do ;) ). Then there are relationships/friendships which meant the world to us but they also fade away just becuz they were based on meaningless things. Then there are times when we connect instantly with strangers as if we have known them for years and then there are those who we thought we could never connect with...but guess what? eventually we end-up hitting the perfect chord with them!!
So what I am tryin to say here is that only meaningful relationships/friendships last. Fakeness is temporary and withers away with time. We need to be ourselves, whenever we talk and whoever we talk-to. The rest
of it will be taken care by life it-self. And I am quite hopeful on that :)

11:02 PM

 
Blogger Basit- said...

Orkut definitely can be a good source of information at times ;)

Belated congrats on your 'Haan'!!!

Btw, you owe all of us (Random frequent bloggers) a big-time party!!! It's a must :)

11:37 AM

 
Blogger in2deep said...

i'm kinda new to blogging and came across your blog. wanted to say hi and after reading some of the comments found out that you just got haanfied.
congratulations:) and write more often. you write well.

8:22 PM

 
Blogger moizza said...

Congrats. I heard from Batool ages ago but that's not what i wanted to comment about. How come you haven't posted for ages???

11:21 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

meher you are awsome--
the more i read your posts the more i think is that the same meher that i went to michigan with. hmmmmmm... maybe we have all grown cuz i dont ever remember you being this deep lol!!!

1:32 PM

 
Blogger fcukinslacker said...

Dear Meher,
I love small talk. Hey you gotta start somewhere and what a better place to start then with small talk. Now if conversations with our loved ones and close friends diminish to small talk, then there's definitely a problem. Especially if small talk is all there is. So I suggest that all of you guys go and read my new blog entry which might give you some insight into why i beleive it happens!!

8:46 AM

 
Blogger Diego said...

well, well, well... I'll be darned.. its Meher!! u probably cant recall me from the ISC Lahore days (Diego's just an alias.. name's Asad)..

neways, just in case u do happen to recall an unfamiliar name, do drop by my blog n leave a msg, or drop me a line at asadumar_82@hotmail.com.. u wouldnt believe the weird turn of events that led me to stumble upon ur blog, so i wont go into that...

Take care,

Asad

P.S. judging from the various comments here, I'm guessing uve recently been betrothed to tie the knot.. Congratulations!

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